Radiohalos are rings of color formed around microscopic bits of radioactive
minerals in rock crystals. They are fossil evidence of radioactive decay.21
"Squashed" Polonium-210 radiohalos indicate that Jurassic, Triassic,
and Eocene formations in the Colorado plateau were deposited within
months of one another, not hundreds of millions of years apart
as required by the conventional time scale.22 "Orphan"
Polonium-218 radiohalos, having no evidence of their mother elements, imply accelerated
nuclear decay and very rapid formation of associated minerals.23,24
10. Too much helium in minerals.
Uranium and thorium generate helium atoms as they decay to lead. A study
published in the Journal of Geophysical Research showed that such
helium produced in zircon crystals in deep, hot Precambrian granitic rock has
not had time to escape.25 Though the rocks contain 1.5 billion
years worth of nuclear decay products, newly-measured rates of helium loss
from zircon show that the helium has been leaking for only 6,000
(± 2000) years.26 This is not only evidence for the
youth of the earth, but also for episodes of greatly accelerated decay rates of
long half-life nuclei within thousands of years ago, compressing radioisotope
timescales enormously.
11. Too much carbon 14 in deep geologic strata.
With
their short 5,700-year half-life, no carbon 14 atoms should exist in any carbon
older than 250,000 years. Yet it has proven impossible to find any natural
source of carbon below Pleistocene (Ice Age) strata that does not contain
significant amounts of carbon 14, even though such strata are supposed to be millions
or billions of years old. Conventional carbon 14 laboratories have been
aware of this anomaly since the early 1980s, have striven to eliminate it, and
are unable to account for it. Lately the world's best such laboratory which has
learned during two decades of low-C14 measurements how not to contaminate
specimens externally, under contract to creationists, confirmed such
observations for coal samples and even for a dozen diamonds, which cannot be
contaminated in situ with recent carbon.27 These constitute very
strong evidence that the earth is only thousands, not billions,
of years old.
12. Not enough Stone Age skeletons.
Evolutionary anthropologists now say that Homo sapiens existed for
at least 185,000 years before agriculture began,28 during
which time the world population of humans was roughly constant, between one and
ten million. All that time they were burying their dead, often with artifacts.
By that scenario, they would have buried at least eight billion bodies.29
If the evolutionary time scale is correct, buried bones should be able to last
for much longer than 200,000 years, so many of the supposed eight billion stone
age skeletons should still be around (and certainly the buried artifacts). Yet
only a few thousand have been found. This implies that the Stone Age was much
shorter than evolutionists think, perhaps only a few hundred years
in many areas.
13. Agriculture is too recent.
The usual evolutionary picture has men existing as hunters and gatherers for 185,000
years during the Stone Age before discovering agriculture less than 10,000
years ago.29 Yet the archaeological evidence shows that Stone Age men
were as intelligent as we are. It is very improbable that none of the eight
billion people mentioned in item 12 should discover that plants grow from seeds.
It is more likely that men were without agriculture for a very short
time after the Flood, if at all.31

14. History is too short.
According to evolutionists, Stone Age Homo sapiens existed for 190,000
years before beginning to make written records about 4,000 to 5,000
years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful
cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases.30 Why would he wait
two thousand centuries before using the same skills to record history? The
Biblical time scale is much more likely.31
References
*Dr. Humphreys is an Associate Professor
of Physics at ICR.
* * *
Refutations for
'Evidence of a Young World' (Humphrey article - above)
Based on work of Kevin R. Henke,Ph.D.
(compiled by Bob Officer)
You do realize each
of his objections can be explained away easily.
1. The so called winding. The Galaxy were not made all at once but are
accumulations which are still gathering and digesting small galaxies. They
suffer disruptions by being passed by other Galaxies.
2. Lack of SNRs. Most of them are Cold and the Gases and Dust are redigested
into new stars rather rapidly over a relative short period
of galactic time period. SN1987a showed us that SNR are fragile, and often do
not form where they would be visible
3. The use of improbable is very wrong and while the number of comets may have
dropped substantially over the life of the lifetime of the
Solar system that improbable is considered very high.
4. This one is easy. he is ignoring the billions of tons of raised seabeds
around the world. Carole most of Australia was one Sea bed as
was most all of the america Southwest and the gain plains of Middle Europe and
South America. Subduction is only one way Nature recycles.
The mud compresses and become silt stone that even compresses more and becomes
Sedimentary rock, The sedimentary rock compresses and become Metamorphic Rocks.
As a person bores a hole in many place they will find Limestone Grading into
Marble as the bore goes deeper.
5. There are vast deposits of Salt from old sea beds. Also there is salt locked
in Nodules on the sea floor just as there are other
mineral deposits which would fully account for any missing salt.
6. Magnetic decay has been recorded before in the past and even more surprising
Magnetic reversals. The Magnetic field is not constant,
never has been. (the evidence is found in dozens of places for reversals and
fades and increases. And Russel Humphreys is know to be
a creationist, and dismisses or ignores those that and evidence which contradict
his preconceived notions.
7. Strata bent too tightly. The problem he has is he thinks of rocks having
always been no flexible. Most of these bent strat have
undergone Metamorphic Heats and pressure where the Rock become more plastic
like. If one looks carefully using ESM one can see the sub
visual clues which show the deformation due to pressure as the Rock formations
bent ever so slowly.
8. I need a trip to the library because I do not have a online subscription to
Nature to refute Items [references] 17-21.
9. Likewise these articles sited are no in any publications I have on have.
As I went down the list I kept seeing the same few names and the presentations
in Creationism Conferences. Humphreys figured rather
prominently so a little bit of looking around and I found this web site which
refutes most all of D Russell Humphrey's conclusions.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/helium/zircons.html
<cite>
"Therefore, a small group of YEC PhDs associated with the Institute for
Creation Research (ICR), the Creation Research Society (CRS) and
Answers in Genesis (AiG) formed the RATE (Radioisotopes and the Age of The
Earth) committee (Vardiman et al., 2000; Humphreys et al.,
2004, p. 3). Simply put, their activities included combing the scientific
literature and designing laboratory "experiments" that would somehow
verify what they have already concluded, namely that a "literal"
interpretation of Genesis is "The Truth" and anything that conflicts
with their biblical interpretations is "wrong." As AiG personnel
dogmatically admit in Section 4, #6 of their Statement of Faith: "By
definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including
history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural
record."
</cite>
That Carole, is the very definition of the fallacy of the preconceived notion.
I also Note: nothing by Humphreys et al, has been published in any Peer reviews
publication. Not one iota of his data has been reviewed
for manipulation. However other people using the nearly same sources of samples
have come to different conclusions. And they have
published their data.
<Cite>
The vast majority of the errors and unsound assumptions in the Humphreys et al.
documents are not the "mountain of minutiae" as
claimed by Humphreys (2005a), but serious mistakes that completely invalidate
any confidence in his work and claims. Some of the major
flaws in the Humphreys et al. documents are discussed below, including
additional errors recently discovered by Loechelt (2008a; 2008b; 2008c; 2009a),
Whitefield (2008), Isaac (2007; 2008a; 2008b) and others. In particular,
Loechelt (2008c) corrects many of the equations and parameters in Dr. Humphreys'
documents. He further demonstrates that Dr. Humphreys' data actually
support an age of about 1.5 billion years for the Fenton Hill zircons, which
refute Dr. Humphreys' claims for a "young" (6,000 years old) Earth and
his need for "accelerated" radioactive decay.
</cite>
There there is one of Humphreys fellow contributors which disagrees with
Humphreys' claims as to what the rocks actually were and the
type of rock that they came from.
<Cite>
Even after being presented with evidence from the literature, Humphreys (2005a)
still refused to admit that he and his colleagues
misidentified gneisses as "granodiorites." He continued to
insist that most of the Precambrian sections of the Fenton Hill cores are
"granodiorites." In contrast, YEC R. V. Gentry readily admitted
in Gentry et al. (1982a) that the Fenton Hill cores consist of a large
number of different rock types, including gneisses and other rocks that provided
his zircon samples.
<cite>
I could continue on citing sections which Show Humphrey seems to have committed
one major fallacy after the other.
I do hope Carole can follow along the Math on that page isn't that complex, but
Does show the interesting points are all based in
fallacies of one type or another. As are most of the arguements on her wab page.
--

Refutations - version 2
by steelclaws
1. The problem with this is that it rests upon the unstated major premise
that density waves are physical parts of galaxies that contain a
set of stars that is unchanging. That way, the differential rotation will cause
them to wind up into a featureless disk. This is simply not
the case. Galaxies are not like figure skaters.
Another problem is a timescale here. Russel Humphreys may be correct when he
places a maximum age of a few hundred million years on his
fallacious understanding of the theory of spiral galaxies. However, many others,
including the one quoted above, will say many millions of years,
or even thousands of years.
http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/2008/12/21/creationist-claim-spiral-galaxies-wind-up-too-fast-for-an-old-universe/
Those time scales are way too short. The sun takes about 250 million years to
orbit around the galaxy once. There is no way that even given
their faulty understanding of the model galaxies would wind up within less than
1% the time it takes a star half-way from the center (about
where we are) to complete a single orbit. This is actually a fairly good example
(like comets) about how creationists often don't understand the
timescales involved with astronomical phenomena.
2. SNRs (supernova remains) can only be observed in a small proportion of our
Galaxy - our view of most of the Galaxy is blocked by large
amounts of dust and interstellar matter. Only some younger, radio emitting SNRs
would be visible through this dust (Sramek et al. 1992;
Gray 1994). This largely explains why there has been no observed Galactic
supernovae in the last 300 or so years (Clark et al. 1981;
Dawson & Johnson 1994; Hatano et al. 1997), even though we would have
expected perhaps 5-10 to have occurred (McKee 2000).
It is also difficult to identify much older remnants as they either have faded
beyond our ability to detect them (they may have merged with the
ISM), they have merged with other remnants, or they have faded into the general
background "noise" (Nousek et al. 1981; Matthews et al. 1998;
Braun et al. 1989; Landecker et al. 1990; Normandeau et al. 2000).
Younger SNRs, or SNRs which are still interacting with gas expelled by their
progenitors are much more likely to be detected (Jones et al.
1998; Slavin & Cox 1992). Shull et al. (1989) carried out a statistical
analysis of SNRs, and found that with isolated SNRs, less than 1% last
for longer than 100,000 years, and only 20% are still intact after 50,000 years.
The make-up of the local ISM that the supernova occurs in is critical to the
observability of the resulting SNR (Dohm-Palmer & Jones 1996). SNRs in
regions where the density of the ISM is low (Henning & Wendker 1975;
Gaensler & Johnson 1995b) or there is little ionised gas present (Heiles et
al. 1980) may not be readily visible. Indeed, it may be the case that as few as
15-20% of supernova events cause observable SNRs (Clark & Stephenson 1977;
Clark 1979; Kafatos et al. 1980).
Some young SNRs can be intrinsically faint at radio wavelengths and thus
unusually difficult to detect (Gray 1994; Duncan & Green 2000).
SNRs are obscured by and can be indistinguishable from other interstellar
emission nebulae, and their spectra can be similar to powerful distant radio
galaxies and quasars (White & Becker 1990; Inglis & Kitchin 1990;
Caswell & Stewart 1991, 1992; Williams et al. 2000). In
other words, there is a lot of clutter out there, and finding SNRs is often a
tricky and difficult task. Indeed, only a minority of SNRs are
visible at optical wavelengths (Long et al. 1990).
The limits of the equipment used to detect SNRs (usually radio telescopes)
impinge upon our ability to observe supernova remnants
(Green 1991; Kassim 1992; Frail et al. 1994). As this gets better in the future,
the numbers of SNRs detected will rise. This can be illustrated
by the way astronomers have detected more and more SNRs in our own galaxy over
the last few decades - in 1984, there were only 174 Galactic SNRs known, and
back in 1971, only 113 (Downes 1971).
Not all the sky has been surveyed to the same degree - there are still large
areas of the sky (mainly in the southern celestial hemisphere)
waiting to be surveyed with more powerful instruments (Case & Bhattacharya
1998).
As a result, Humpreys vastly overestimates the actual number of observable SNRs.
Berkhuijsen (1984) suggested that there might be 1,000
to 10,000 SNRs in our Galaxy (depending on the lifetime of SNRs), but this is
the only estimate I'm aware of that provides a figure anywhere
near Davies', but even then, Berkhuijsen's estimate is for the total number of
SNRs, and not for the observable SNRs.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/
3. Comets have a lifespan of about 10,000 - 40,000 years, depending on the size
of the comet. However, there is the Oort cloud - which
creationists dismiss on the rather ironic reason that nobody's ever seen it -
which sends new comets to the solar system due to disturbances to
it.
4. There are three sources for sediment found on the ocean floor:
Terrestrial sediment transported from continents by rivers (only on continental
margins).
Deposition of the shells of dead plankton falling through the water column (to
form silicious and calcareous oozes at medium depths in areas
too far for terrestrial sediment to be transported).
Volcanic ash and meteoric debris (in the deepest oceans furthest from land).
Direct precipitation (shallow water).
Material eroded from continents generally does not make its way to the deep
ocean, but remains on the continental shelves and continental
slopes forming thick layers of sedimentary debris.
The weight of the sediment causes the layers underneath to sink further down
into the earth (via isostacy) leaving more room for new sediment to be deposited
on top.
Thus the oceans do not fill with terrestrial sediment, because almost all of it
remains trapped on the continental margins.
5. Looks like Humphreys figured this up this up without properly estimating the
amount of sodium lost in the alteration of basalt. They
omit sodium lost in the formation of diatomaceous earth, and they omit numerous
others mechanisms which are minor individually but collectively account for a
significant fraction of salt.
6. This one is based on the erroneous concept that the earth's magnetic field
decays irreversibly. It has weakened, strengthened and changed
polarity several times dring the earth's history. There is evidence for this
available:
"The Earth's magnetic field is slowly changing and appears to have been
changing throughout its existence. When the tectonic plates form along the
oceanic ridges, the magnetic field that exists is imprinted on the rock as they
cool below about 700 Centigrade. The slowly moving plates act as a kind of tape
recorder leaving information about the strength and direction of past magnetic
fields. By sampling these rocks and using radiometric dating techniques it has
been possible to reconstruct the history of the Earth's magnetic field for the
last 160 million years or
so. Older "paleomagnetic" data exists but the picture is less
continuous. An interlocking body of evidence, from many locations and times,
give paleomagnetists confidence that these data are revealing a correct picture
of the nature of the magnetic field and the Earth's plate motions. In addition,
if one "plays this tape backwards" the continents, which ride on the
tectonic plates, reassemble along their edges with near perfect fits. These
"reassembled continents" have matching fossil floras and faunas. The
picture that emerges from the paleomagnetic record shows the Earth's magnetic
field strengthening, weakening and often changing polarity (North and South
magnetic poles reversing)."
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/faqgeom.shtml
7. Cracking does not occur in the manner described when material is under
pressure. Additionally, the existence of water is inconsequential
when strata are bent under pressure.
8. There are some errant claims here. First, research does NOT suggest that
Mitochondrial Eve is possibly as young as 6,500 years old. In fact,
the lowest estimate is 120,000 old.
Also, while traces of organic material were preserved, there was certainly no
sign of cells and no DNA was retrieved. This point resides
on a misrepresentation or false material.
9. The entire thesis is built on a compounded set of assumptions. He is unable
to demonstrate that concentric haloes in mica are caused uniquely by alpha
particles resulting from the decay of polonium isotopes. His samples are not
from "primordial" pieces of the Earth's original crust, but from rocks
which have been extensively reworked. Finally, his hypothesis cannot accommodate
the many alternative lines of evidence
that demonstrate a great age for the Earth. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/po-halos/gentry.html
10. The conclusion reached by the RATE project as to the reason for the
increased amount of Helium is that sometime in the past few thousand
years there was a period of increased radioactivity (DeYoung, 2005, 78). A
fundamental problem with this hypothesis, however, is that the amount of energy
released during the accelerated decay proposed by RATE would potentially be
enough to evaporate the oceans and melt the Earth's crust. http://orgs.usd.edu/esci/age/content/creationist_clocks/helium.html
For a very thorough debunk see http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/helium/zircons.html
11. New C14 is formed from background radiation, such as radioactivity in the
surrounding rocks. In some cases, C14 from the atmosphere can contaminate a
sample. Some things that can contaminate the sample: Sulfur bacteria, which
commonly grow in coal, Secondary carbonates from groundwater that form on
fracture surfaces, and Whewellite, a carbon-containing mineral, that often forms
as coal weathers.
12. Bone decays, and depending on the soil it can decay very fast. Acidic soil
is known to decay bone much faster than alkaline soil, also
high water content soil decays bone faster than dry one.
Humpreys does not allow either for known burial practices that do not leave
skeletons, such as cremation.
13. Why is it implausible that humans lived for a long time without agriculture?
Agriculture allows higher population densities, but it leads to an overall
decrease in the quality of life over that of hunter-gatherers (Diamond 1987). In
particular, agriculture requires much more work for a lower quality, less
dependable diet, and it increases disease. There was no pressing reason to adopt
agriculture in the first place.
The end of the last ice age about 10,000 years ago may have facilitated the
origin of agriculture at that time. The changed climate may have
made agriculture possible in more areas, and/or it may have led to a human
population increase which required agriculture to sustain.
It is possible that agriculture has been discovered several different times over
the last 180,000 years. Climate change, even over relatively
short periods of a few decades, has caused the collapse of agricultural
societies in historical times, and the climate has changed dramatically
over the last 180,000 years. Agriculture in the distant past may have been lost
repeatedly.
The assumption that humans have not changed in intelligence over the past
185,000 years is unsupportable and many not be true. A team of
geneticists has found evidence that human brains have evolved adaptively
recently (and may still be evolving). Two genes associated with brain
size have genetic variants whose high frequencies indicate that they spread
under strong positive selection. A haplotype (genetic variant) of
the Microcephalin gene arose about 37,000 years ago (95 percent confidence
interval of 14,000 to 60,000 years) (Evans et al. 2005). An
ASPM haplotype arose only about 5800 years ago (95 percent confidence interval
of 500 to 14,000 years) (Mekel-Bobrov et al. 2005). It should
be emphasized that the effects of these haplotypes is currently unknown; the
evidence for strong selection indicates only that their effects are important,
that humans have evolved recently in some way. It may be significant that they
occurred around the same times as the introduction of modern humans to Europe
and the origins of art (about 40,000 years ago) and the rise of agriculture and
writing (about 10,000 to 6,000 years ago). It is also possible that these genes
are not relevant to the origins of agriculture but others are. The larger point
is that there is evidence that humans continue to evolve in subtle ways. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CG/CG041.html
14. Humphreys uses here a fallacious argument from personal incredulity. Writing
evolved, and the process is very visible in the development of
Sumerian cuneiform, and it evolved from clay tokens used for record keeping of
domestic animals, barley, dates etc. Why it did not evolve
before is not known, but my guess would be there was not much need for writing
before the birth of complex, agriculture-based societies, oral
transmission having been the main system for pre-agricultural societies.

The Vanishing Case for Evolution
by Henry Morris, Ph.D.*
http://www.icr.org/article/4342/
Adapted from Dr. Morris' article
"The Vanishing Case for Evolution" in the June 1986 edition of Acts
& Facts.
* Dr. Morris (1918-2006) was
Founder of the Institute for Creation Research.
Cite this article: Morris, H. M.
2009. The Vanishing Case for Evolution. Acts & Facts. 38 (2): 17.

Links
In the interests of a balanced argument, see also
How Old Is The Earth, And How Do We Know?
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
Young-Earth Arguments: A Second Look
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/age.htm
Index to Creationist Claims
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html
CA: Philosophy and Theology
CB: Biology
CC: Paleontology
CD: Geology
CE: Astronomy and Cosmology
CF: Physics and Mathematics
CG: Miscellaneous Anti-Evolution
CH: Biblical Creationism
CI: Intelligent Design
CJ: Other Creationism
